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Post  Nearco Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:55 am

Welcome to another minigame. In this game, we'll be giving each of you 1000 yen. Isn't that awesome? Everyone gets 1000 yen! But... You also get locked in a room.

"How do I get out of the room, so I can bask in the awesomeness that is Nearco?" I hear you all cry. Well, every 24 hours, I'll unlock the room, and you can leave with whatever money you have. To do so, just PM me with a message titled "Quit".

"Wait? 1000 yen? That's a rather piddly sum. What can I do to increase it, mighty Nearco-sama?" you all say. Well, in the room, there is a button. When you press the button, it doubles the wealth of everyone still in the game. And it also inverts it of every player besides yourself. So, if you currently have 1000 yen, and someone presses their button, you now have a debt of 2000 yen. If another person presses their button, you now have 4000 yen profit. If you press your button, it grows to 8000 yen. To press your button, just PM me with a message titled "Button". Remember: You can only press your button once.

"So, how do I know who's pressed their button, oh Great and Mighty Nearco-sama?" You can ask around. But, we won't be telling you.

"Well, there's a monetary prize now. Did Forli bow to the power of the one true god, Nearco?" Yeah. No chess-related prizes this round. Future mini-games might have them though.

"OK, you sexy beast, Nearco. How do I play?" Just PM me to tell me you are playing. You have 48 hours.

"And how do we ask questions of the omniscient Nearco-sama?" You can PM them to me, ask me on MSN and the xat, or ask in this thread. I will put all rules questions here.
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Post  Leronira Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:51 am

Your new master, the all-mighty nearco-sama, has spoken. Heed his words!!

(<3)
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Post  Nearco Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:24 am

"Oh, almighty Nearco, how long will the game last? And can I give birth to your first-born child?"

The game will last for 10 days. And no, you cannot.

Also, you can only press your button once. After that, it is inactive.
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Post  Kurifuji Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:30 am

I don't quite get the logic in this.

Nearco wrote:So, if you currently have 1000 yen, and someone presses their button, you now have a debt of 2000 yen. If another person presses their button, you now have 4000 yen profit. If you press your button, it grows to 8000 yen.


So in another words, you gain the most if everybody presses the button.. right?
"but can you trust that the others will?" Why wouldn't they? D; it's win/win situation.
Or if it's like so that the first person to press gains the least then.. well, yeah.
But if there's more than one round you can just work it out. D:
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Post  Dysania Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:15 am

Any chance of a worked example?

For instance, with demonstrative players Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, Epsilon and Zeta?

Might help clarify the bendy rules Smile
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Post  BadPlayer Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:09 pm

If there's an odd number of people, and everybody presses the button, then everyone gets a profit of 2^X thousand yen, where X is the number of people. Let's all cooperate and get everyone a ton of money xD
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Post  Nearco Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:37 pm

If there are is an odd number of players, then one of them can make everyone suffer a debt by not pressing his/her button. Basically, s/he's being a dick. S/he will gain half of what s/he could have gained, but everyone else will get a debt. Any odd number of players not pressing their button will achieve this goal, where those that didn't press their button will profit.

If there are 10 players, then the best result is achieved by one player not pressing his/her button. But then that player will get a debt. If s/he presses his/her button, then everyone gains a debt.

For Dysania... There are 10 players in this worked example. P1, P2, P3, P4, P5, P6.

On the first day, P1, P2 and P3 press their buttons. Each player now has 8000 yen, but P4-6 all have that as a debt. P3 quits. He will get 8000 yen profit.
(P1: 8000, P2: 8000, P3: 8000, P4: -8000, P5: -8000, P6: -8000)

On the second day, P5 and P6 press their buttons, and P4 quits. Since P3 already quit, his account is not affected.
(P1: 32000, P2: 32000, P3: 8000, P4: -32000, P5: 32000, P6: 32000)

At this stage, everyone who is still in their box has already pressed their button, so I call the game. P4 is the only one to lose out in this game.
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Post  Nearco Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:51 pm

"Oh, great and mighty Nearco, who's mere presence is enough to make mountains bow, do we get told the amount of money we have during the game?"

Nope. All players will learn their total once the game is over.
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Post  BadPlayer Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:05 pm

Nearco wrote:If there are is an odd number of players, then one of them can make everyone suffer a debt by not pressing his/her button. Basically, s/he's being a dick. S/he will gain half of what s/he could have gained, but everyone else will get a debt. Any odd number of players not pressing their button will achieve this goal, where those that didn't press their button will profit.
But if an even number of players don't push the button then everyone who didn't push the button goes into debt while everyone that did makes money. Which means if someone doesn't push the button, they need to hope that an odd number of people didn't.
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Post  Nearco Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:38 pm

Yeah. So, you know need to convince the right number of people to do stuff. Throws stuff out of whack, doesn't it?
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Post  Glass Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:00 pm

Ok since people have been complaining they dont understand nearco's wording (probably because mixing inverse and change signs) Im going to rewrite it so its easier to understand.


Everyone who joins starts with a free 1000yen (yay). If you press your button the value of everyone's yen will double and change signs (positive to negative, negative to positive), the only exception is your own which will double and not change signs.

Players A, B, C play
A:1000
B:1000
C:1000

(A presses

A:2000
B:-2000
C:-2000)

(B presses

A: -4000
B: -4000
C: 4000)

Thats how you play, pretty simple. You can only press your button once obviously
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Post  Nearco Tue Oct 05, 2010 3:46 am

Thanks glass. That is accurate.
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Post  Guest Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:06 am

So... what information do we get each round?
Who has dropped?
The total sum of all players?
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Post  Eminent Thropp Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:12 pm

If we all work together ya'll, I'm sure we can all gain a sufficient amount of yen. Anyone else wanting to join all of us? Cmon, we're all friends here.

That's right, I'm pulling a Nao.
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Post  monday Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:22 pm

Eminent Thropp wrote:If we all work together ya'll, I'm sure we can all gain a sufficient amount of yen. Anyone else wanting to join all of us? Cmon, we're all friends here.

That's right, I'm pulling a Nao.

Pulling a Nao...
Oooh, interesting.
-has 0 yen-
xD
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Post  Nearco Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:12 pm

Trade:

We will inform you of who signed up for the game, and who has left their box. (So, if you PM me quit, it will be announced. If you PM me double, it will not).

I will only announce how much each player has at the end of the game.
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Post  Nearco Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:07 am

The following is the list of players. I will open doors in 24 hours for anyone who wishes to leave with what they have so far..

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Cryselda
Eminent Thropp
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Kiria
Monday
Moonlight
Morte
NastyMan
The ?
Xanatos

You each have 1000 yen. Go.
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Post  BadPlayer Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:59 am

If everyone presses the button, we all lose money. But it's fine, I'll leave with my 1000 yen this period just to make it easier for the rest of you Razz
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Post  Guest Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:44 am

I must be really stupid. Why can't we just press the button an even number of times, and then let in this case Bad Player leave with a next to sufficient amount?
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Post  BadPlayer Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:32 am

Captain Obko wrote:I must be really stupid. Why can't we just press the button an even number of times, and then let in this case Bad Player leave with a next to sufficient amount?
We could, but if I leave at the wrong time, or someone decides to be a jerk and push the button early so that I leave after it's been pressed an odd number of times... >.< I'd rather just leave with 1000 yen than risk leaving with a big debt.
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Post  Guest Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:09 pm

Well, someone might already have pressed the button, but you do have a point.
Thank you for your cooperation!
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Post  Nearco Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:53 am

Badplayer has quit. There are now 11 players left in the game.
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Post  Nearco Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:46 am

No more players have left.
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Post  BadPlayer Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:26 am

Everyone press the button, post that you've pushed the button, and then once everyone has posted that, leave. Then we can get onto the next minigame <3
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Post  monday Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:33 pm

Silly Badplayer. xD
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